Give Us an Example of God!

Quote from Kyle

> For god cannot be conceived apart from thought

I was confused by this phrase, but I think in context this must mean that god/a god can't be conceived of as a thoughtless being (like a p-zombie).

For me, I would take this to mean that god cannot be experienced apart from thought. ---> God exists only as a mental construct.

Quote from Kalosyni

For me, I would take this to mean that god cannot be experienced apart from thought. ---> God exists only as a mental construct.

Just for clarity to lurkers, I think most everyone agrees with the first sentence, at least as having something to do with "images."

But as to the second sentence, that's the idealist position, and others take the realist position that they exist regardless of whether we think about them.

The conversation has moved on somewhat from this point, but I just started another thread on a particular excerpt from Lucretius as to the logical possibilities as to how anything can be "eternal." I think that excerpt is relevant to this "gods" discussion as well, because if they are to be deathless they must somehow relate to one of those categories.

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The Logical Possibilities As To What Can Be Eternal (Applicable to Gods As Well)

In podcast 262 I was going through the ways that Lucretius was proving that the soul cannot be eternal, and came across this section in which Lucretius sets out the logical ways in which something could be eternal. In addition to the soul aspect I think this is helpful in the way it describes (1) the universe as a whole is eternal - by deduction from the fact that there is nothing "outside" the universe, and (2) that the atoms and void are eternal because they are able to "beat back assaults"…

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December 30, 2024 at 10:26 AM