Only Two Feelings - Pleasure and Pain - The Term Pleasure Includes Tranquility, Meaningfulness, Katastematic, Kinetic, Etc.
The Term Pleasure Includes Bodily as well as Mental Pleasures Such As Tranquility, Meaningfulness, Katastematic, Kinetic, Etc. Likewise The Term Pain Includes All Bodily and Mental Pains.
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Key Citations - Only Two Feelings: Pleasure And Pain
- Cassius
October 4, 2023 at 9:34 AM
- Cassius
October 4, 2023 at 9:34 AM
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Choice & Avoidance: towards a better translation for avoidance 38
- Julia
August 15, 2024 at 10:29 AM
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Article on the Science of Guilty Pleasures 3
- Kalosyni
June 16, 2024 at 10:01 AM
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June 16, 2024 at 2:23 PM
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A Food Analogy That May Be Useful In Thinking About Stimulative vs Non-Stimulative Pleasures 7
- Cassius
March 6, 2024 at 9:53 AM
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March 28, 2024 at 12:23 PM
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Positive Emotions and Happiness
- Kalosyni
March 10, 2024 at 9:12 AM
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March 10, 2024 at 9:12 AM
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The concept of resilience vs. ataraxia 5
- Titus
November 1, 2023 at 5:19 PM
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January 13, 2024 at 10:34 AM
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Is gratitude a katastematic or kinetic pleasure? 69
- burninglights
October 25, 2023 at 10:45 AM
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November 4, 2023 at 5:13 PM
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Competing Greek Words for Pleasure in the Epicurean Corpus? 12
- Pacatus
October 31, 2023 at 1:00 PM
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November 1, 2023 at 1:19 PM
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Article: Does Neutral Affect Exist?
- Kalosyni
October 14, 2023 at 8:19 AM
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October 14, 2023 at 8:19 AM
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Comparing "Pleasure = Absence of Pain" to "Body = Absence of Void;" A Cite to Lucretius 1:503 6
- Cassius
August 25, 2023 at 4:58 PM
- Cassius
September 10, 2023 at 8:41 PM
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Modern Neuroscience And The Katastematic / Kinetic Debate 61
- Don
June 29, 2023 at 2:14 PM
- Don
July 28, 2023 at 1:31 PM
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Latest video from Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett - "How Emotions Work" 1
- Don
June 22, 2023 at 2:33 PM
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Pleasures of the Mind In Comparison To Pleasures of the Body 3
- Cassius
April 13, 2023 at 4:19 PM
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April 13, 2023 at 7:21 PM
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Confidence in Katastematic Pleasure 47
- Don
February 10, 2023 at 11:00 PM
- Don
February 13, 2023 at 10:07 AM
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Do Pigs Value Katastematic Pleasure? ( Summer 2022 K / K Discussion) 167
- Don
June 29, 2022 at 11:26 PM
- Don
October 20, 2022 at 11:57 AM
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Maslow's hierarchy of needs 6
- Matteng
August 24, 2022 at 4:11 PM
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August 25, 2022 at 12:45 PM
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The Sweeping Nature Of The Word "Pleasure" 3
- Cassius
July 26, 2022 at 2:17 PM
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July 29, 2022 at 2:36 PM
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Applying K/K Theory to Practical Life Issues 1
- Kalosyni
July 16, 2022 at 10:20 AM
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Another Article Insisting On The Importance of the Kinetic / Katestematic Distinction, Despite Citing Nikolsky 16
- Cassius
September 28, 2019 at 6:35 PM
- Cassius
July 10, 2022 at 12:48 AM
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On The Need To "Fulfill Your Nature" By Pursuing Your Natural Dispositions 2
- Cassius
May 15, 2022 at 10:43 PM
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CNN Article on Reclaiming Sexual Pleasure
- Don
September 4, 2021 at 10:08 AM
- Don
September 4, 2021 at 10:08 AM
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Archival Preservation of Antique Books 1
- Joshua
May 22, 2021 at 2:21 PM
- Joshua
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Is [X] a waste of time? 26
- Joshua
September 30, 2020 at 8:21 PM
- Joshua
October 1, 2020 at 5:37 PM
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Emotional states from an epicurean pov 8
- Eoghan Gardiner
July 18, 2020 at 11:34 AM
- Eoghan Gardiner
July 19, 2020 at 8:23 PM
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What A Mess This K / K Issue Is - Here is Someone Saying These are "The Most Dominant Terms In Epicurus' Theory of Pleasures" 7
- Cassius
March 11, 2020 at 7:49 AM
- Cassius
March 16, 2020 at 2:59 PM
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Epicurean Attitudes Toward Emotion 19
- Cassius
March 10, 2020 at 7:28 AM
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March 14, 2020 at 12:05 AM
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Emotions, reason, the body and more 2
- Godfrey
February 23, 2020 at 3:12 PM
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February 23, 2020 at 7:34 PM
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Dialogue on Katastematic Pleasure 38
- Hiram
February 16, 2018 at 4:33 PM
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February 21, 2018 at 4:16 PM
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"Objection Your Honor! Attorney Cicero Is Mischaracterizing the Testimony To Mislead The Jury! The Evidence Is Clear: Not Only Is "Ataraxia" Not The Highest Pleasure - Ataraxia Alone Is Not A Pleasure At All! 2
- Cassius
January 27, 2018 at 2:11 PM
- Cassius
February 2, 2018 at 7:56 AM
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DeWitt: "It Makes No Difference That Some Pleasures Are Static And Some Are Kinetic" 20
- Cassius
January 28, 2018 at 6:17 AM
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February 1, 2018 at 12:08 PM
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Evidence of Survivors of Pompeii and Herculaneum 1
- kochiekoch
November 20, 2024 at 5:05 PM - General Discussion
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“Better to lose the money because of me than to lose me because of the money.” 3
- TauPhi
November 19, 2024 at 7:57 PM - General Discussion
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An Anti-Epicurean Article - "The Meaning of Life Is Not Happiness" (For Future Reference) 12
- Cassius
November 9, 2024 at 8:07 AM - General Discussion
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Was De Rerum Natura intended as satire? A lecture by THM Gellar-Goad. 14
- Julia
October 24, 2024 at 4:03 PM - General Discussion of "On The Nature of Things"
- Julia
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New Slideshow: Nothing Comes From Nothing
- Cassius
November 10, 2024 at 3:51 PM - General Discussion
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