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Mother Jones' critical essay on Stoicism as a philosophy of the ruling class

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  • January 3, 2020 at 1:52 PM
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    • January 3, 2020 at 1:52 PM
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    "What’s so incongruous about a ruling-class philosophy that says that things are as they were fated to be, so just deal? ... In an era of massive inequality, it was only a matter of time before someone found a way to rebrand the oligarchs’ retreat from their social obligations as timeless, hard-edged virtue."

    subtitle of essay:

    In the most indulgent and self-satisfied place in America, Stoicism is all the rage.

    https://www.motherjones.com/media/2020/01/…oicism-holiday/

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    • January 3, 2020 at 2:38 PM
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    Looks like Mother Jones pursuing the same idea as the New York times in March of 2019:

    Silicon Valley, Big Tech, And Stoicism

    Also:

    Doesn't sound like the author really understands his subject -- this quote indicates that he basically approaches issues from a Platonist / idealist perspective, and he should probably be embracing Stoicism due to the idealism Stoicism actually represents (that is when Stoicism is not wallowing in its self-pity, acceptance of fate, and inaction):

    Quote from Hiram

    In an era of massive inequality, it was only a matter of time before someone found a way to rebrand the oligarchs’ retreat from their social obligations as timeless, hard-edged virtue.

    One last edit: after thinking further I bet the author more accurately could be pegged as following Cicero's critique of the Stoics in "On Ends" (which is a work that ought to make clear that Cicero was not a Stoic himself.)

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