October 7, 2024 - First Monday Epicurean Philosophy Zoom Discussion - Agenda

A key text which was mentioned in our Zoom last night involves the first sentence of the following quote which Usener catalogs as part of U67, from Athēnaîos, Deipnosophists, 12.67, 546E:

• And indeed Epíkouros, while not hiding himself, says loudly "I myself am not able to conceive the good – if I removed the pleasure from flavor, and removed the pleasure from Aphrodisian activities." For this wise man believes that even the life of profligates can be irreproachable – if It should be safe and favorable for one of them! Therefore, the Poets of comedy, who are perhaps disdainful of pleasure and intemperance, call out the Epicureans and Followers.

As stated, the first sentence will be our special focus, but the remainder of the quote illustrates how enemies of Epicurus combine it with PD10 and their general denunciation of pleasure for purposes of disparagement.

Find the full U67 on page 188 of Bryan's PDF version of Epicurea here:

https://www.epicureanfriends.com/wcf/attachment/4995-epicurea-9-11-pdf/

Note about the Sorities discussion:

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RE: October 7, 2024 - First Monday Epicurean Philosophy Zoom Discussion - Agenda

A key text which was mentioned in our Zoom last night involves the first sentence of the following quote which Usener catalogs as part of U67, from Athēnaîos, Deipnosophists, 12.67, 546E:

• And indeed Epíkouros, while not hiding himself, says loudly "I myself am not able to conceive the good – if I removed the pleasure from flavor, and removed the pleasure from Aphrodisian activities." For this wise man believes that even the life of profligates can be irreproachable – if It should be safe

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Cassius

October 3, 2024 at 9:32 AM

I am not finding a prior thread directly on the Sorites Issue - and this is something we will want to remedy. In the meantime here are some links where it has come up before:

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The Covered Father

(Epicurus - On Nature - Book 28, P.Herc. 1479 (1417), fr. 13, col. 9 sup., David Sedley trans.)

"...these will be confuted, if they are false and whether the cause of their error is irrational or rational, either because (1) some other than theoretical opinion expressed on the basis of them is untrue, or, (2) if they become indirectly linked up with action, wherever they lead to disadvantageous action. If none of these consequences ensues, it will be correct to conclude that opinions are not…

Bryan

March 2, 2024 at 9:43 PM

Sorites paradox - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Discussion in Lucretius Today Episode 150 - Episode 150 - "Epicurus And His Philosophy" Part 06 - Development of the School in Mytilene and Lampsacus

Quote from Kalosyni

… if there are any other introductory members (or established members who have never attended) interested please let us know and we can add you to the Zoom link list (link goes out the day before the meeting).

I would love to attend the zoom meeting on 7th.