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 ====== Lucretius - On The Nature of Things ====== ====== Lucretius - On The Nature of Things ======
  
-{{http://​www.epicureanfriends.com//​wiki/​lib/​plugins/​ckgdoku/​fckeditor/​userfiles/​image/​selection_059.jpg?​direct&​200x146 ​ |www.epicureanfriends.com_wiki_lib_plugins_ckgdoku_fckeditor_userfiles_image_selection_059.jpg}}This Wiki will contain the public domain translations of [[https://​archive.org/​stream/​tlucretiuscaruso00lucr#​page/​n9/​mode/​2up|the Daniel Browne 1734 Edition]], [[https://​archive.org/​stream/​in.ernet.dli.2015.96329/​2015.96329.Lucretius-On-The-Nature-Of-Things--Ed-4th#​page/​n5/​mode/​2up|the Hugh Munro 1886 Edition]], and [[http://​archive.org/​stream/​onnatureofthings01lucruoft#​page/​n3/​mode/​2up|the Cyril Bailey 1936 edition]]. For comparison purposes the less literal William Leonard 1916 edition in poem form is available at Perseus [[http://​www.perseus.tufts.edu/​hopper/​text?​doc=Perseus:​text:​1999.02.0130|here]]. Transcription of Book 1 of the Daniel Browne edition is now complete, and we are in the process of adding the remaining five books, with cross-references of each book against the Latin text. If you are available to assist (as simple as typing the text from the PDF into an email) please [[cassius@epicureanfriends.com|email]] or [[http://​www.epicureanfriends.com/​index.php?​thread/​455-versions-of-the-text-of-lucretius-1743-daniel-browne-edition-unknown-translator/&​postID=1224#​post1224|check in here]].+{{http://​www.epicureanfriends.com//​wiki/​lib/​plugins/​ckgdoku/​fckeditor/​userfiles/​image/​selection_059.jpg?​direct&​200x146 ​ |www.epicureanfriends.com_wiki_lib_plugins_ckgdoku_fckeditor_userfiles_image_selection_059.jpg}}This Wiki will contain the public domain translations of [[https://​archive.org/​stream/​tlucretiuscaruso00lucr#​page/​n9/​mode/​2up|the Daniel Browne 1734 Edition]], [[https://​archive.org/​stream/​in.ernet.dli.2015.96329/​2015.96329.Lucretius-On-The-Nature-Of-Things--Ed-4th#​page/​n5/​mode/​2up|the Hugh Munro 1886 Edition]], and [[http://​archive.org/​stream/​onnatureofthings01lucruoft#​page/​n3/​mode/​2up|the Cyril Bailey 1936 edition]]. For comparison purposes the less literal William Leonard 1916 edition in poem form is available at Perseus [[http://​www.perseus.tufts.edu/​hopper/​text?​doc=Perseus:​text:​1999.02.0130|here]]. ​Another list of various English translations is [[https://​en.wikipedia.org/​wiki/​List_of_English_translations_of_De_rerum_natura|here]]. 
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 +Transcription of Book 1 of the Daniel Browne edition is now complete, and we are in the process of adding the remaining five books, with cross-references of each book against the Latin text. If you are available to assist (as simple as typing the text from the PDF into an email) please [[cassius@epicureanfriends.com|email]] or [[http://​www.epicureanfriends.com/​index.php?​thread/​455-versions-of-the-text-of-lucretius-1743-daniel-browne-edition-unknown-translator/&​postID=1224#​post1224|check in here]]. At present (06/27/18) transcription of book one is now complete, with books two through six remaining to be done. The text of the Browne translation needs to be typed into books two through six, and then line equivalent line numbers added to the Munro and Bailey versions which are already transcribed.
  
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 **[[https://​archive.org/​stream/​tlucretiuscaruso00lucr#​page/​n9/​mode/​2up|BROWNE 1734 Edition]]** : [[:​browne_1|Browne 1]] | [[:​browne_2|Browne 2]] | [[:​browne_3|Browne 3]] | [[:​browne_4|Browne 4]] | [[:​browne_5|Browne 5]] | [[:​browne_6|Browne 6 ]] **[[https://​archive.org/​stream/​tlucretiuscaruso00lucr#​page/​n9/​mode/​2up|BROWNE 1734 Edition]]** : [[:​browne_1|Browne 1]] | [[:​browne_2|Browne 2]] | [[:​browne_3|Browne 3]] | [[:​browne_4|Browne 4]] | [[:​browne_5|Browne 5]] | [[:​browne_6|Browne 6 ]]
  
-**[[https://​archive.org/​stream/​in.ernet.dli.2015.96329/​2015.96329.Lucretius-On-The-Nature-Of-Things--Ed-4th#​page/​n5/​mode/​2up|MUNRO 1886 Edition]]**:​ [[:​munro_1|Munro 1]] | [[:​munro_2|Munro 2]] | [[:​munro_3|Munro 3]] | [[:​munro_4|Munro 4]] | [[:​munro_5|Munro 5]] | [[:​munro_6|Munro 6]]+**[[https://​archive.org/​stream/​in.ernet.dli.2015.96329/​2015.96329.Lucretius-On-The-Nature-Of-Things--Ed-4th#​page/​n5/​mode/​2up|MUNRO 1886 Edition]]**:​ [[:​munro_1|Munro 1]] | [[:​munro_2|Munro 2]] | [[:​munro_3|Munro 3]] | [[:​munro_4|Munro 4]] | [[:​munro_5|Munro 5]] | [[:​munro_6|Munro 6]] | [[https://​archive.org/​stream/​lucreticariderer01lucruoft#​page/​n5| Latin Text]]
  
 **[[http://​archive.org/​stream/​onnatureofthings01lucruoft#​page/​n3/​mode/​2up|BAILEY 1936 Edition]]**:​ [[:​bailey_1|Bailey 1]] | [[:​bailey_2|Bailey 2]] | [[:​bailey_3|Bailey 3]] | [[:​bailey_4|Bailey 4]] | [[:​bailey_5|Bailey 5]] | [[:​bailey_6|Bailey 6]] **[[http://​archive.org/​stream/​onnatureofthings01lucruoft#​page/​n3/​mode/​2up|BAILEY 1936 Edition]]**:​ [[:​bailey_1|Bailey 1]] | [[:​bailey_2|Bailey 2]] | [[:​bailey_3|Bailey 3]] | [[:​bailey_4|Bailey 4]] | [[:​bailey_5|Bailey 5]] | [[:​bailey_6|Bailey 6]]
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-===== Table of Canonical Principles ===== 
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-  * [1.423] All truth must be grounded on sensation - we must have confidence in what is immediately in front of us before we can understand things that are not visible. 
-  * [1.700] And what can be more sure than our senses to us, by which we fully know falsehood and truth? 
  
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-===== Table of Ethical Principles ​=====+===== Sample Side-By-Side Comparison From Book 6 =====
  
-  * [1.1] Hymn to Venus - Pleasure is the motivating force behind all life. +{{  :​humanacomparison.jpg?​400 ​ |humanacomparison.jpg}}
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 ===== Table of Topics ===== ===== Table of Topics =====
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   * Pleasure - personified by the Goddess Venus - is the motive power behind all living things.   * Pleasure - personified by the Goddess Venus - is the motive power behind all living things.
-  * Epicurus challenged and defeated the power of Religion, and shows us how to do that by studying Nature.+  * Epicurus challenged and defeated the power of Religion, which brings pain to humanity, and shows us how to defeat religion ourselves ​by studying Nature.
   * Religion prompts men to great evil, and oppresses them by threatening punishment by the gods both in this life and in eternity after death.   * Religion prompts men to great evil, and oppresses them by threatening punishment by the gods both in this life and in eternity after death.
   * The way to defeat the control of religion in life is to show that the universe was not created by gods and is not controlled by gods, so the threats of religion to punish us during life are lies.   * The way to defeat the control of religion in life is to show that the universe was not created by gods and is not controlled by gods, so the threats of religion to punish us during life are lies.
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   * Even though there are no gods controlling the movements of the atoms, they cannot combine in all possible ways, but only according to their nature.   * Even though there are no gods controlling the movements of the atoms, they cannot combine in all possible ways, but only according to their nature.
   * Atoms have no color, but they vary in size and arrangement,​ and living things arise from certain arrangements and combinations of the atoms   * Atoms have no color, but they vary in size and arrangement,​ and living things arise from certain arrangements and combinations of the atoms
-  * The arrangement of the material makes the key difference, and you must understand that while consciousness is not something given by the gods, it also does derive from random combinations of matter - life can only emerge from certain types of matter in certain combinations+  * The arrangement of the material makes the key difference, and you must understand that while consciousness is not something given by the gods, it also does not derive from random combinations of matter - life can only emerge from certain types of matter in certain combinations
   * So the key to remember is that living, conscious beings are made of of particles that are not themselves living or conscious - and certainly not divine or small parts of god.   * So the key to remember is that living, conscious beings are made of of particles that are not themselves living or conscious - and certainly not divine or small parts of god.
   * Humanity and our world were not specially created by gods. The Earth is not the only planet with life. Natural proceses never create only a single thing of a kind, and the same processes which produced life here produce life on many other planets throughout the universe, and other races of animals and men, as as there has been infinite time and space for all natural combinations of things.   * Humanity and our world were not specially created by gods. The Earth is not the only planet with life. Natural proceses never create only a single thing of a kind, and the same processes which produced life here produce life on many other planets throughout the universe, and other races of animals and men, as as there has been infinite time and space for all natural combinations of things.
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   * We do not have enough information to understand how many natural phenomena operate, so what we must do in these cases is to keep our minds open to any reasonable possibility that is not eliminated by the evidence - and since we have already proven that the universe has no gods over her, we never entertain the idea that something we do not understand comes about by divine action.   * We do not have enough information to understand how many natural phenomena operate, so what we must do in these cases is to keep our minds open to any reasonable possibility that is not eliminated by the evidence - and since we have already proven that the universe has no gods over her, we never entertain the idea that something we do not understand comes about by divine action.
   * At the end of our lives death is inevitable for all of us, just as the citizens of Athens, despite the greatness of their city, were not immune from perishing in the great plague.   * At the end of our lives death is inevitable for all of us, just as the citizens of Athens, despite the greatness of their city, were not immune from perishing in the great plague.
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 +===== Table of Canonical Principles =====
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 +  * [1.423] All truth must be grounded on sensation - we must have confidence in what is immediately in front of us before we can understand things that are not visible.
 +  * [1.700] And what can be more sure than our senses to us, by which we fully know falsehood and truth?
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 +===== Table of Ethical Principles =====
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 +  * [1.1] Hymn to Venus - Pleasure is the motivating force behind all life.
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 +[[Paraphrase of Book 1|]] (Daniel Brown Edition)
  
  
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